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Tuesday, August 28, 2012

John Locke Questions

1. How does Locke describe the state of nature?
2. Why do people leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government?
3. Under what conditions is it acceptable to dissolve a government?

Remember you must answer these and respond to a fellow classmate to get full credit!

Due Sunday September 2 by 11:59pm.

78 comments:

  1. "Without asking leave or depending upon the will of any other man" is the sum of how Locke describes nature. Not breaking into anyone's "perfect freedom" and within the bonds of nature; to live peacefully and equally with everyone else.
    "And thus, in the state of nature, one man comes by power of another." Having a select group of leaders emerge and wanting to be in control of their people is natural instinct. But cannot break the state of nature and do as they please but to ensure a more safe place for everyone else.
    "Whoever uses force without right" is committing a crime,even if it is the government. When these wrongful actions are done without the consent of the people, the people can dissolve the government as seen fit.

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    1. I agree with Ryan because if the people with the authority make laws that the people didnt appoint they are like forcing something into what others didnt want, which means " the people are not therefore bound to obey...and may constitute too themselves a new legislative" as Locke mentions.

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  2. 1.)Locke describes the state of nature by explaing it as a state of equality in which nobody has power over another, and that everyone is free to do as they please. But just because they can do as they please does not mean they have the liberty do abuse others.
    2.)People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a goverment,because they see that no one is emerging to be a leader. The group thinks they know what is best for the people and how they can be in a more comfortable society.
    3.)The only way that the goverment can be dissolved is if it makes laws that were not approved by the people, and in that case the people are not obligated to follow the laws.At that point they may disslove the goverment not feeling comfortable with it.

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    1. Angela Dalia AyalaAugust 29, 2012 at 6:36 PM

      1.)Locke describes the state of nature by implying that everyone is "born to all the same advantages". Meaning that everone is equal amongst another. He also states that all men shall have freedom.
      2.)People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because they want to join others who are already united, "or have a mind of mutual preservation of their lives, liberties, and estates." They want to in a secure and safe place.
      3.)A goverment can only be dissoveled if it creates laws without the consent of the people.

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    2. I agree with Maritza information provided of John Locke. John describes the state of nature a place where no one has more power than another and that the only condition to dissolve a government is if the authority fails to lisent to the people.

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  3. Angela Dalia AyalaAugust 29, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    1.)Locke describes the state of nature by implying that everyone is "born to all the same advantages". Meaning that everone is equal amongst another. He also states that all men shall have freedom.
    2.)People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because they want to join others who are already united, "or have a mind of mutual preservation of their lives, liberties, and estates." They want to in a secure and safe place.
    3.)A goverment can only be dissoveled if it creates laws without the consent of the people.

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    1. I agree with Angela's thoughts. John Locke did view the state of nature as everyone having the same advantages as well with the right to live in a secure and safety place.

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    2. Vicky Lopez (virginia)September 1, 2012 at 12:25 PM

      I agree with Angela's comment of John Locke he believe everyone was born with same rights.

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  4. 1) John Locke describes the state of nature as a place where everyone is equal, "no one having more than another".
    2) People leave the state of nature to join the political system because living in the state of nature means living day by day with insecurity to protect your property joining a group of united people where they preserve their lives, liberties and estates creates a feeling of safety.
    3) Unless the authority makes a law without the consent of the people it is acceptable to dissolve a government.

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    1. I agree with Araceli most on the first answer. No man is superior to another and everyone has the same rights, therefore everyone is equal.

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    2. I agree with Araceli on the first question because Locke mentions that everybody is equal in the government and should be treated equally

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  5. 1. Locke describes the state of nature as free, where no one has control over no one, “the state of nature has perfect equality”. But in the state of nature Locke also says that everyone is going to be punished equality for all the offenses they have done.

    2. People leave the state of nature and join the political society established by the government because they feel more secure in there than the state of nature. They want to be with people who are already united to protect each other.

    3. A government can only dissolve under the conditions of the people, for example is the government makes a law that the people didn’t like, they do not have to follow what he says and in that moment the government can be dissolved because he didn’t follow the rules.

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    1. I agree with Lucia in that the people felt more secured in the political society they got things like mankind's,life,health,limbs.This created security in this society.Also that the people didn't have to follow the law if they didn't approve it or wasn't in the consent

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  6. 1) Locke describes the state of nature as a perfect freedom and equality."A state of perfect freedom to order their actions, and dispose of their possessions and persons as they think fit, also the state of equality where no one has more than another.
    2) People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because this would preserve, "Mankinds life,liberty,health,limb or goods."Creating security among society.
    3) It is acceptable to dissolve a government if the laws are impose by them without the peoples consent,therefore the people can dissolve the government.

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    1. Julio C. Lores CruzSeptember 1, 2012 at 3:31 PM

      I disagree with Cecilia's (and Locke) statement about the state of nature being perfectly free. Locke writes that the state of nature is perfectly free, but in a different point of view that perfect freedom is a prison where all mankind is subject to their impulses and feelings. If one were to always do what they wish then they are subjects to their own desire.

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  7. 1.Locke describes the state of nature as free. Everyone have the same rights and advantages this means that nobody has more power than another.
    2.People leave the state of nature and join a political society because they feel more secure than in the state on nature.
    3.A government can be dissolved if they make a law without the consent of the people,if the people don't agree with the law they can choose not to follow it

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    1. I agree with Alejandra in that Locke described the state of nature FREE, where no one has control on no one, any every one is to do what ever they pleased.

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    2. I agree with Alejandra in that Locke describes that a government can be dissolved when a law is not approved by the people

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  8. Vicky Lopez (virginia)September 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    1. Locke describe the state of nature as equality. Laws of Nature without having to depend upon the will of any other man "No person shall
    2. People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because they want to feel secure with other people that believe in so they unite.
    3. WIthout the consent of the people it is acceptable to dissolve a government.

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  9. 1. Locke describes the state of nature as an equality to all men by not having power over another, "unless the lord...set one above another". Everyone has the same freedom and power except using "power to use a criminal, when he has got him in his hands."

    2. People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government to feel more safe with people who are united,"to no other end but the peace, safety and public good of the people".

    3. If a law is passed without authorization of the people, they can disobey it and the government will be dissolved not feeling comfortable with the law anymore.

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  10. 1.) John Locke describes the state of nature as being "a state of perfect freedom..." Everyone is equal and no one should have more power than another. Eventhough everyone is free, they need to restrain from abusing others. Locke says "No one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possesion". If anyone does hurt or abuse another human being, than other individuals have the right to institue a natural law. Locke says "Every offence that can be committed in the state of Nature may,in the state of Nature, be also punished equally, and as far forth, as it may, in a commonwealth."

    2.)People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because when they are free and alone, they feel "unsafe and insecure". They are more willing to quit because of fear and continual danger. Locke says "It is without reason that he seeks out and is willing to join in society with others who are already united, or have a mind to united, or have a mind to unite for the mutual preservation of their lives, liberties, and estates, which i call by the general name-property"

    3.)A government can be dissolved when people make laws without the consent of the people. Locke says " When any one, or more, shall take upon them to make laws whom the people have not appointed so to do, they make laws without authority... may constitue to themselves a new legislative".

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    1. I agree with Jonathan's statement that people need to restrain from abusing others because if everyone is equal, there should be no reason to treat others differently, or cause harm to them.

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  11. 1. Locke describes the state of nature by describing that everyone has the same powers and freedoms, and no man has power over another. "Everyone is born to the same advantages." Locke means that everyone is equal, and no one has the right to have power over someone else.
    2. People leave the state of nature and and join a political society by establishing a government because they want to be with others who have beliefs the same as them, and have already united.
    3. It is acceptable to dissolve a government when they start making laws without the consent of the people, or begin to abuse their power.

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    1. I agree with everything Sarah said, especially with number 2 because people feel secure being around people who have the same ideas and beliefs as them. It's similar to being safe with someone because you personally know them.

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    2. I agree with what Sarah said about no man having power over another. Everyone is born equal and there shouldn't be specific individuals who have more advantages than others.

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  12. Julio C. Lores CruzSeptember 1, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    1. Locke writes that the tate of nature is where all "powers are and jurisdiction is reciprocal". This balance of powers in check of other powers leads inevitably to a balance or equality where everyone has the right to "Health,liberty, or possesions". Hence the state of nature is where no man need be afraid of another's power because all power is in balance and equal.

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    1. I agree with Julio due to his statement being that a balanca of powers would inevitably lead to equality and liberty. The state of nature puts forth that no man must not be afraid of anothers power, in which everyone is created equally.

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  13. Julio C. Lores CruzSeptember 1, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    2.In the state of nature one feels "very unsafe, very insecure" because one cannot know that other powers(people) are obeying the "Law of nature". Hence People join political society by establishing government,even if it means giving up freedom, to ensure their lives, liberties, and possesions are safe.
    3. People may dissolve government when their chosen representatives, be it parliament, congress or any others, make laws unbefit for political society.

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    1. 1.) John Locke describes the state of nature by saying "being equal one amongst another." In other words, Locke believed that everyone has the same rights and no one should be granted more power over their neighbors. He also establishes that if one abuses their power by abusing or hurting another being, under natural law, the abuser can be subject to punishment.

      2.) People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because they want to feel and be secure. The best way of doing this is to create a government where everyone has "a mind of mutual preservations of their lives, liberties, and estates."

      3.) It is acceptable to dissolve a government under the conditions of the abuse of power, the threat of riding or limiting the power from one [citizens] of their rights/power, and/or making laws without the people's consent.

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  14. Jocelyn Yaritza AscencioSeptember 1, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    1. Locke describes the state of nature as equality for all. That everyone has the same quantity of power. "Everyone is born to the same advantages." People are all considered having the same rights despite who you are.

    2. People tend to leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because, its easier for them to join the people with the same beliefs and opinions. They feel safer with the people who are ununited to others, giving up many things just to sercure their safty.

    3. The only way a government is able to be dissolved is if the government makes/creates a law without the concent of the people.

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    1. I agree with Jocelyn, especially the last sentence in number 1. Everyone is human, and no one's perfect. So whoever you happen to be shouldn't hinder the rights that you are born with.

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  15. 1. Locke describes the state of nature as being one of perfect equality, and states that, "...all power and jurisdiction is reciprocal, no one having more than another...". He goes on to say that if someone has the power to punish another for any transgressions, then everybody should have the power to do so.

    2. People leave the state of nature and join a political society because although everyone is one equal standing with one another, they still feel "very unsafe, very insecure.". In turn, it makes people willingly leave the state of nature, however free it is, and join a society with others that are already united, or plan to unite for mutual preservation of their "lives, liberties, and estates."

    3. It is acceptable to dissolve a government when the person or people in charge starts to make laws without the consent of the people. The people then are not bound by the laws and can make a new government that they think would be the best replacement.

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    1. I agree with Linh on answer #2 because the insecurites that the people feel drive them to find security in a political society. The political society will be united and agree to help a person who is in the same situation they are- feeling "very unsafe".

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  16. 1. John Locke describes the state of nature as "a state of perfect freedom" meaning everyone has the same equality. He describes it as a place where people are not allowed to abuse of others, "no one having more than another".
    2. People left the state of nature and joined a political society by establishing a government because they began to feel unsafe and even though they had equality they thought being with a group of people who believe the same would make them feel safer.
    3. The only way to dissolve a government is if the people with the authority make laws without the consent of the people.

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    1. I agree with Maritza's response for question #2 because people do they feel unsafe even though everyone is equal. There is no firm "hand" that would be there to stand up for us if a tragic incident occurred in our country.

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  17. 1)Locke mainly describes the state of nature as one of equality where people are "born to all the same advantages...." He also explains how all the power and its extent should be given, but also "no one having more than another." In the end, every individual is treated the same as every other person.
    2)People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because the situation they are in is one where they are "full of fears and continual dangers," and they seek to find a society where others "are already united."
    3)It is acceptable to dissolve a government when people make laws without consent of authority, and the people are not willing to obey.

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    1. i disagree with sandra, in her answer to question 1, espacially with her first sentence because when we are born we, all, don't share the same advantages. Its not the same to be born in a palace full of servants than to be born in the house of a humble farmer.

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    2. Luis Gomez... I think Sandra is correct because she is going with what the Locke reading says. "for all being kings as much as he, every man his equal..." I know you are right too but really not according to the reading.

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  18. - Jonh Locke describes the state of nature as "a state also of equality", by which everyone under this law is born with the same advantages and should be able to do what they beleive is right for everyone. Even so, with this principal idea of not allowing one to "authorize us to destroy one another" in the state of Nature, it is not as "free" as Locke says we might think.

    -People, usually the commonwealth, leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because they want to secure what they know is precius to them: property. The idea of having it "constantly exposed to the invasion of others" would make the commonwealth find people like them, interested in " lives, liberties, and estates" to protect themselves.

    -It is acceptable to dissolve the government when any person or a group, take the right to "make laws without authority" of the people. This could lead to the formation of a new legislative because every participant in this government should be able to "defend himself" from all the aggressors.

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    1. I agree with Natividad because I believe that her first response is about everyone being equal to each other which is what I feel John Locke was trying to explain.

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    2. I agree with Gallerie because John Locke said he believes everyone was born with same rights and were created equal.

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  19. 1.) Locke explains the state of nature as a matter of impartiality meaning everyone is equal , there is not one individual that is above anyone or holds more power , everyone has the same equal rights.

    2.) People leave the state of nature and want to join a political society by establishing a government because in the state of nature things are not "secure". Even though the state of nature is free and open doors for anybody they still are "full of fears and continual dangers". They rather join a political society in which they tend to be more stable and have more reasoning over important situations that involve us.

    3.) It is acceptable to dissolve the government if they decide to pass a law without the approval of the citizens , if they just decide to go against our will.

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  20. 1. Locke describes the state of nature as an open-minded, free interpretation. One does not have more or less power over another, but is more fair then anything. Locke believed in nothing more then equality and the freedom, happiness, and liberty that one individual deserves.

    2. People leave the "state of nature" to join a more political society because in the state of nature, one may feel insecure. At that point, they are "forced" or given the opportunity to form their own government by means of sacrificing their own freedom for survival.

    3. A government may absolutely be dissolved if the government decides to create laws without the consent of the people. If the laws were made with no authority, then by all means, citizens are not required to follow the laws.

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    1. I agree with statement 2. There are people that could potentially threaten the balance of equality in the State of Nature. Turning to a Political Society does relenquish true equality, but freedoms are more secured.

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  21. 1) John Locke describes the state of nature as "A state of equality" where creatures of the same species and rank are equal to each other
    2) People leave the state of nature to join a political society to preserve their property and establish a known settled law allowed by common consent.
    3) It is acceptable to dissolve a government when the authority uses force without right and abuses it's power by making laws without the people's consent.

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    1. I disagree with Adrian's third answer because making a law without the consent of the people doesn't give them the right to dissolve that government. A law that takes away certain freedoms or is completely against "state of nature" is when the people have a reasonable right to dissolve the government

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  22. Locke describes the state of nature as one in which man has perfect freedom to "order their actions, and dispose of their possessions and persons as they think fit..." basically a situation of "every man for himself"

    People leave the state of nature to join a political society due to the constant threat of "the invasion of others". This threat makes a person willing to give up their freedom and join others who have already United in exchange for security.

    It is acceptable to dissolve a government when it betrays the peoples trust by making laws without their consent, or when the government uses force without right against the people.

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  23. 1) In John Locke's description of state of nature, he claims that humans are free, but at the same time restricted only by the laws of nature. There is no need for a government to be in place with this scenario, since Locke believes that morals restrict possible malice.

    2) Some people view the State of Nature as an unsecure enviornment to live in because of the great chance that our "unalienable rights" are violated, due to the possibility of people lacking the adequate morals to respect the rights of another being. They turn to a political society through government so there can be a form of order and security in their state.

    3) It is acceptbale to dissolve a government when there are laws/policies in place that threaten or weaken the "unalienable rights", and all was done to make an attempt to reform.

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    1. I agree with statement 3 because when the government causes more harm to the people it stopped working for the people and is acceptable to dissolve the government and replace it with something fitting to them

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  24. 1.) In the beginning paragraph of Locke's excerpt he describes the state of nature being that men are naturally born in by suggesting that it is a state of "perfect freedom to order their actions, and dispose of their possessions and persons as they think fit," which can be interpreted as the equal rights among men. Locke also goes into depth on this subject when he writes, “A state of equality, wherein all the power and jurisdiction is reciprocal,” in the second paragraph.

    2.) Locke then explains that man will leave the state of nature to join a political society with only with the idea “to better preserve himself, his liberty and property” which constitutes that every being deserves that right. This can tie into the idea of equality that was first recognized by Locke.

    3.) According to John Locke’s writing one of the conditions to dissolve a government would be a situation where the people have decided to not follow the laws or conditions made by someone who has taken it upon themselves to be a deciding factor in the government; in other words someone who has derived laws from force instead of by the consent of those who are being governed.

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  25. 1. Locke describes the state of nature as a society in which everyone is perfectly equal and are "...born to all the same advantages of Nature..." This means that everybody has the same rights except they cant abuse the other people's freedom.

    2. People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because they might not feel safe or secure in the state of nature, on the other hand when a government is established the people have more of a word or right to speak out and decide whats good for them and the rest of the people.

    3. When the government commits a crime or does something without the consent of the people, that's when its acceptable to dissolve it. If a law abuses their freedoms or takes away their rights, the people should be able to overthrow their government.

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    1. I agree with your statement #3, for the people must be aware of the laws in which they are to follow. If the government approves laws without the consent of the people it is possible for them to dissolve the government.

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    2. I agree with kevin's 1st response because Locke describes how everyone was "promiscuously born to all the same advantages of nature" that way everyone had equal rights and no one had more power over another.

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  26. 1. Locke describes the law of nature as everybody having the same rights and advantages like everyone else for we were all created equal.
    2. According to Locke, the reason why man leave the state of nature to join a political society is because those men do not find stability in the state of nature, there for they look for a way in which they can have power and control over others. They also feel a sense of security for they do not trust the morals of other men to be in order every time.
    3. A government can only be dissolved if it makes a law where the consent of the people is not present, in which case it is acceptable, for a government should be ruled by the people.

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    1. I agree with Nancy because everyone is equal and have the same rights as each other.

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  27. 1) John Locke describes the state of nature as a state of "perfect equality, where naturally there is no superiority or jurisdiction of one over another." A perfect state where all man are "independent" and " no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possession."

    2) People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because people tend to feel "very unsafe, very insecure" when living under the state of nature. People like to believe that entering a "society" that share the same principles has "no other end but the peace, safety, and public good of the people."

    3) It is acceptable to dissolve a government when those appointed to govern impose new laws without the authority and consent of the people.

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    1. I agree with Luis because people even now feel much more comfortable if someone was there with them. They choose to live without the assurance of life, health, liberty and possession as long as they're around people who are united.

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    2. I agree with both yesenia and Luis because people feel more secure when there are others around them who share their beliefs rather then living on their own with nature and no reassurance.

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    3. i agree with all three of the answers. lockes state of natures means everyone is equal, people leave state of nature to feel more secure and safe, and it is acceptable to dissolve a govt if they havnt asked the people.

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  28. 1. John Locke describes the law of Nature as us being created equally and able to pursue what we want independently and not being forced to all aquire the same goals in life. And also that "no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions".
    2. People leave the state of Nature and join a political society by establishing a government because they feel "unsafe, very insecure". They also think the state of Nature is "full of fears and continual dangers".
    3. It is acceptable to dissolve the government if they "make laws without authority" or consent of the people.

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  29. It's only acceptable to dissolve of a government if the government makes laws that violate a citizens rights and if they take advantage of their power. Also if they make laws without the peoples consent the people are allowed to stop obeying the government.

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    1. I agree with Amairani and think that if an unjust law is passed, the people should confront it by talking things through and not turning towards violence.

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  30. 1.)Locke describes the state of nature by implying that everyone is "born to all the same advantages". Meaning that everone is equal amongst another. He also states that all men shall have freedom. 2) People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because they feel more secure then living with just nature. 3)without the people accepting a government can be dissolved.

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  31. 1. Locke describe the state of nature as "the power and jurisdiction is reciprocal" meaning that no one has more than another. Everyone has the same rights and equality.

    2. People leave the State of Nature and join a political society by establishing a government because of they are "...willing to join in society with others who are already united" in other words "for mutual preservation of their lives..."

    3. It is acceptable to dissolve (leave) a government if laws are made without peoples concern.

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  32. 1.Equal,people whose freedom does not depend on others needs or says nor obey them in which John Locke describes that everyone has equal rights under the laws of nature and no other person has greater power.
    2.People join political society and leave the state of nature to be part of a group and feel safe as well confident with others.
    3."..people have a right to act as supreme.." when laws change without the people consent they have this anger inside them that they tend not to follow and seceded from, then the government will be dissolve

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    1. I agree with Luis #3 because if the government does something with out the peoples consent it shows that the people have no power in their word, and the government is base on the people.

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  33. 1. John Locke describes the state of nature by implying it as a state of perfect freedom in which he meant that everyone has the same equality, no one being superior than others.
    2.People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a government because they want to be with those who share the same expressions and beliefs as well as them, which makes them feel safe from those who don't think the same way.
    3.When the government commits a crime without the consent of the people, that's when its acceptable to dissolve it because people loose faith in them.

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    1. I agree with Jose #2 because people feel more confident about there expression towards each other as well as having communication between them.

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    2. I agree with Jose #2 because people feel more confident about there expression towards each other as well as having communication between them.

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  34. 1. John Locke describes the state of nature as one where no one has more power than another, everyone has equal power, Equality for all. "born to all the same advantages". Also stating "punished equally" that all punishment as rights should be equal.
    2. People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing government because in the "better to preserve" "himself, his liberty, and property" the power of property" because in The State of Nature they feel "unsafe and uneasy".
    3. When the people don't agree with a law passed, it is without their consent than a government can be dissolved.

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  35. 1. Roche describes the Constitutional Convention of 1787 as a democratic reform caucus which means that the Convention had to be operated well and skilled with "political cosmos full of enemies" in order to get popular approbation.
    2. Some major political constraints during the Constitutional Conventional would be a plot being developed of making the central government more powerful than what it existed in the Articles, and also that subversion existed in political order but can only succeed if people of the United States were involved.
    3.According to Roche , the feeling he had about the role of political theory at the Constitution Convention is that people would need to take part in order for it to be acceptable and have "national interest".

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  36. 1.Roche describes the Constitutional Convention of 1787 as a democratic reform caucus which means that the Convention had to be operated well and skilled with "political cosmos full of enemies" in order to get popular approbation.
    2.Some major political constraints during the Constitutional Conventional would be a plot being developed of making the central government more powerful than what it existed in the Articles, and also that subversion existed in political order but can only succeed if people of the United States were involved.
    3.According to Roche , the feeling he had about the role of political theory at the Constitution Convention is that people would need to take part in order for it to be acceptable and have "national interest".

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  37. 1.Locke describes the state of nature by saying that all men are equal.
    2.People leave the state of nature because we fell safer in the majority.
    3.A valid reason for a people to want to dissolve a government would be when the government is not providing a safe and secure home.

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  38. 1.)Locke describes the state of nature as everyone born to all the same advantages Meaning everyone is equal.

    2.People join political society and leave the state of nature to be part of a group were they feel save.

    3. It is acceptable to dissolve a government if it betrays Its peoples trust My passing laws without thier consent.

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  39. 1. LOcke describes the state of nature by saying that every man is equal and that no one haves more power than the other
    2. People leave the state nature and join a political society by establishing a government because some people feel insecure and actually want rules in order for People to follow in order to feel more secured
    3. In some conditions the government can be dissolved is if it makes laws that are not approved by people and the people would be furious with the decision like this.

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  40. 1. Locke describes the state of nature by saying that everybody is equal and all have the same advantages. No one overpowering one another and that all should have freedom.
    2. People leave the state of nature and join a political society by establishing a govt. because they want to be with the ones who are already united so that they can protect eachother and feel more secure rather than the state of nature.
    3. It is acceptable to dissolve a govt. under the conditions of a govt. creating laws without asking the people what they want. Also if the govt. abuses their power.

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