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Monday, September 24, 2012

UT affirmative action case

Read the article, http://www.thebatt.com/news/lawsuit-against-ut-could-reshape-affirmative-action-1.2865570#.UGCn0Gt5mSN

What do you think the Supreme Court will say when they try this case in a few weeks? Do you agree with the policy or should they stick with the 10% rule?

Discuss and comment on another students.

Due Friday September 28 by 11:59:59pm

69 comments:

  1. I believe that the Supreme court will uphold the ten percent policy. University of Texas should not streamline applications just on the basis of race, and as Scott said there are other tactics to create a heterogenous student body. Speaking as a minority student, I know that many of my fellow students are outstanding individuals that will be accepted into colleges, regardless of ethnicity, and purely out of academic merit.

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    1. I agree with everything Julio said. College should accept students "purely out of academic merit"

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    2. I agree with Julio because they are different ways into having a "heterogeneous" student body and it shouldn't be all about race. I also agree that education and academics should be a huge part into why you get acceptance to a school.

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    3. I agree with Julio about other means to make a heterogeneous student body.

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  2. I think the Supreme Court will support the top ten policy and reject race as a factor in the admission process. The top 10% rule allows minorities to be accepted into college without their race being taken into consideration. I would stick to the top ten policy because it offers equality.

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    1. i agree with this because thats not the way people should b accepted into college.. they should b rated on theyre academic level.. knowm sayin...

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    2. i agree with Jonathan, the court will stay with the top 10% rule because the students should be accepted by there achievements and not the race.

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    3. I agree with Jonathan because the 10% rule gives them the right of been accepted without discrimination of their race.

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    4. I agree with Jonathan that students that are in the top 10% should be admitted to schools and not because of their ethnicity. This country is created and equal and should be this way and the students are academically high it's because they work hard and be admitted no matter their background.

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  3. I think the supreme court will go with the top ten policy because it rates them to see where the students are in school and tells whether or not they will get accepted regardless of the skin they are in. UT shouldnt go through the students applications and just accept based on the ethnicity.. i would go with the top ten policy since it is based on the students acedemic level instead of race as i just said.

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  4. I think that the court will stay with the 10% policy.and not go with the other one because your race should not be a a part of your admission to a college.The state should stay with the 10% rule, because it helps people get into college, minorities mostly.

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  5. I think that the court will decide that the race of someone shouldn't matter in the persons application. Having people say what race they are will make the school seem as if race is a big factor of acceptance, when it shouldn't be. I also think that the 10% rule should be kept because that is one form to show the school that you had a good education and how worthy you are, without knowing your race.

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    1. I agree with Maritza, because race should not have anything to do with your acceptance into UT. Plus your ethnicity has nothing to do with your capacity to learn .

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  6. As Emerson stated “You should be admitted on your education and your merits. Your ethnicity should not play a huge part in the acceptance process.” I completely agree and believe that the supreme court should stick to the top 10% acceptance of admission because it goes by your academic level and you won't be stereo typed by your skin color nor your ethnicity. their for it would only be fair to judge your knowledge and not your background.

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    1. I Agree wih Bella that it will be unfair if colleges were to accept you according to your skin color or ethnicity because some students work hard and shouldn't be discriminated.

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    2. I agree with Bella that colleges should admit you not because of your race but because of academic level.

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  7. I strongly believe that the Supreme Court will lean towards ten percent rule. Racial discrimination should not play a role when it comes to a student's application. The top ten percent rule really gives each individual the same opportunity. A person's ability to succeed is not based on race. It is just as Emerson said, “You should be admitted on your education and your merits."

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    1. I agree with Sandra , the top ten percent rule gives everyone the same opportunity. One's race should not mater when it comes to applying to college , we should all be treated equal.

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    2. I agree with Sandra, a top ten percent rule gives each student an equal chance to be admitted into college. Given this chance students that truly want to go to college, and have the academic skill to do so, will make it.

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    3. I agree with Sandra. The top 10% is an equal and fair oppurtinty for any student give it their best to get into a local school free of hassel

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    4. I am in favor with everyone on the idea that the top 10% rule is a great opportunity to show the universities the potential that students have. If admission is based on race, then there will be a great loss of the exellence of education the top 10 % group has worked so hard for.

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    5. I agree with Sandra because the top ten percent rule does give everyone the same opportunity.

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    6. I agree with Sandra, the top ten percent rule ensures that discrimination is not committed and gives each individual who desires to achieve in life an equal opportunity to be admitted into a university.

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    7. I agree with Sandra, in that the Supreme Court will stick with the top 10% rule, in that discrimination shouldn't play a role in someone's acceptance into a school.

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  8. I believe the Supreme court will go for the top 10% rule. Admissions should not rely on the applicants race. The top 10% rule gives those students the advantage of finally having a way to pay off their hard work. The ability to succeed does not fall under what race you are , but rather how well you perform your work.

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    1. I agree with brenda on the fact that the students that work hard enough get recognized for it.

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  9. I believe the Supreme Court should go towards the top 10% rule because this rule gives every student an opportunity to attend to college not because of their race but because of their achievements and all their hard work. Plus if the go against the 10% rule America would not be called equal anymore because they I’ll be discriminating race.

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  10. I believe that the Supreme Court would take an affirmative stand for the 10% rule. It would give every student that worked hard throughout high school a just and fair opportunity to get into college on their achievements rather than what their race is.

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    1. I agree with Linh because the 10% rule those allow hard working students to have a fair opportunity to get into college.

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    2. Linh is correct when she says that the students work hard during their high school years to get into the college they want with the use of their achievements. Way to go Linni, yay!

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  11. The Supreme Court will go with the 10% rule. The reason is, it is not fair to the students that work hard to get in the top 10%, yet alone it would be racial discrimination choosing a certain race. Going with the 10% is a fair way to gain acceptance into college.

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    1. I disagree with Fernando because there are a different number of students in schools and makes it unfair for people that are smart but in the top 25% because of the school having 125 students in the class.

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  12. I think that the Supreme Court won't allow for the college to base admissions off of students race and they will sustain with the top ten percent policy. I disagree with the policy and would keep the top ten percent because like Emerson said "you should be admitted on your education and your merits. Your ethnicity should not play a huge part in the acceptance proces.”

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    1. i agree with angela because you should be admitted according to eduaction.

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    2. I agree with Angela because it doesnt matter where you come from the only think that should matter is the merits and academic excellences you achieved.

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  13. Admitting students based on their race is not right because school should be more focused on education and grades. It is not fair for those that are not wanted because of their race and are really intelligent. I think the people of the court are not going to agree with what UT wants to do. They shouldn't necessarily stick with the 10% plan either because there are different amounts of students in schools and it makes it unfair for people that have a 3.9 out of a 4.0 scale but are in the top 25% because of how many people are in the school.

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    1. I must disagree with your comment. Deciding on race is just one factor the school takes in others to assure they admit the right candidate. The current plan resolves the issue with population and the 10% plan by viewing the entire portfolio of a student and seeing what they can offer to the school aside doing well in school.

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  14. The supreme court would stick to the Top 10 percent goal because students from wath ever race work hard in high school, to be in the spot they are in to be admited to college, but it would not be fair for colleges to admit students from only one particular race which leaves out the rest of the class out and would be only discrimination in races.

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  15. I believe that the supreme court would not agree with UT's decision because they are discriminating and rejecting future students base on their race as we seen in in older cases descriminating against minorities causes an abundant amount of problems with society. I also believe that they should stick with the 10% percent rule, because these allows diversity among students and lets those students who worked extra hard to be were they are have and oppurtunity to have an education from schools like this one.

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    1. In this case the discrimination in race is not coming from a minority. A lot of Universities want to have a lot of diversity and sometimes that means having to choose the minority race over the other. If you have 2 great students both with high GPA and High test scores only one is a minority their choice would be made on which of the 2 will bring the most diversity

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  16. i think that the supreme court will stick to the 10% rule because the other one discriminates against minorities and its not fair. with the 10% rule you can still get diversity and people who actually worked hard to make it into prestigious schools like these.

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  17. I believe the courts will have the same ruling just as the Michigan case since race isn't the sole factor the school looks at. I believe the current process is just fine. It offers many factors to take in and not just pure race or pure academics it includes an essay for the student to discuss what they bring to the school and it's diversity.

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  18. I believe in all scense of a Constutional America, the Supreme Court will uphold the 10% rule. The top 10% rule is just a fine way of having a better student body and not worry about any non functioning students to get it. Race nor gender should ever hinder someones eductation. Not "ethnicity" but "academic merit".

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    1. I agree with Ryan the top ten provides a better student body.

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  19. I think the supreme court will stay with the 10 percent rule. The other rule takes chances away from different races or cultures. The 10 percent rule is based on "academic merit" not on race, culture, color or ethnicity. I dont believe the other policy is constitutional because i feel like it discriminates against minorities. Ethnicity cannot overrule intelligence; it doesn't make sense.

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    1. I agree with Nancy because under the affirmative action policy, the students will not be qualified by their academic merits but by their race, culture, color or ethnicity. She couldn't had explained it better, "it doesn't make sense."

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  20. The Supreme most likely rule with the to 10 percent rule. The top ten percent rule to get in the college is not a bad thing because you have to write resumes and essays to what you will contribute to the school. To get accepted into a college is not only the top 10 it is a big process including race essays grades it is more then just one thing taken in consideration.

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  21. It think the Supreme Court will keep the 10 percent rule since it truly represents the top of the class, purely academic merit. With this new ruling that involves race over academic achievements would jeopardize the acceptance of all students into their college of choice.

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  22. The supreme court will go against UT and the decisions they made with ethnicity and favor the top 10% rule. The top ten percent rule is fine like it is and its based on "education and your merits" and not on your ethnicity. The rule makes it possible for anyone to have the same chances to be able to receive higher education no matter their race.

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    1. I agree with Fernando because "The rule makes it possible for anyone to have the same chances"

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  23. I believe the Supreme court will go for the top 10% . I agree with the rule because going with the 10% is a fair way to gain acceptance into college.

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    1. I agree with alex because the 10% rule is an opportunity for the kids who have worked hard to get into college.

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  24. Of course the Supreme Court would favored the 10% rule. Race should be the last problem they should worry about because that does not determined their knowledge nor how they act. And the 10% rule gives each student the same right with their education.

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  25. I think the decision in the Supreme Court would be that they are going to stick with the top 10% rule because nobody gets judged by there background in being admitted to school but going to be judged academically in order to deserve to get admitted based in your gpa. I agree with top 10 % because students should be recognized of their hard work.

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    1. I agree with Miguel because its not fair to get in or not be admitted because of your race. It should be primarily based on your grades and honors.

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  26. The 10% rule is a great way for smart kids to get into college after working hard. Race shouldnt matter because that doesnt decide the level of education that they have recieved. The 10 percent rule is a fair way for each student to get the same privileges.

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    1. I agree with ana in that race should not be a factor to be consider when an individual is applying to a university.The top ten rule does give an equal treatment for any student that is going to a university.

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  27. I think it is very unfair that they are admitting students according to their race. Schools should be way more worried about the grades a students has. An intelligent student should not be denied admission because of his race. I believe the court will stick with the top 10% rule.

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  28. When this case is tried, I beleive the Supreme Court will seek the best choice that will benefit students of future generations. The top 10% rule has been effective in motivating students of several ethnicities to work hard throughout their high school years. The race of a student though, should not be a barrier between a student and further education of their choice. A university should accept a student based on their academic achievements and not on their race.

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  29. The supreme court would come in favor the top ten rule because a student shouldn't only be judge for their enthicity to have an admmision to an university. If the other policy is accepted it would read out as descrimination against minorities.Individuals should only be criticed for their "academic merit".

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  30. I think that the Supreme Court will rule that the top 10% rule will remain as the ideal process to accept students into universities. If UT was to win, it would be sort of a discrimination, not just to specific ethnicities, but to those who try hard and put all their efforts into their studies. The top 10% rule motivates students to try their best on getting high grades in order to be accepted into recognized universities. If the affirmative action policy was passed, then it would discourage students to put in their maximum effort and feel that at the end, they might not get what they worked hard for.

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  31. I think that the Supreme Court will support the ten percent policy because it is a more practical way to ensure that racial discrimination won't played a role when universities accept new students. The top ten percent doesn't discriminate individuals based on their or ethnicity it gives equal opportunities to everyone.

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    1. I agree with Luis because the 10% rule is a way to ensure that racial discrimination will not play a role in the application process and it ensures that each student has an equal opportunity.

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  32. I believe the Supreme Court will favor the Top 10% Rule and rule against UT because as it said in the article "The top 10 percent policy has helped with [diversity of] race and ethnicity, as well as geography, getting students from rural areas." It helps with diversity and doesn't discriminate while also allowing the students to be judged only by their achievements and "academic merit".

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  33. I believe the Supreme Court will make UT change some admission rules for the future, the Top 10% rule will be favored. Like a student from A&M said, that you should be admitted by your grades and achievements not because of your race. Definitely, I believe Abigail Fisher will help prove her case that UT is not doing things right in their admission, with the race aspect of students. I say they should stay with the Top 10% rule, this defiantly helps a campus have more diversity in their races in school. The people are not being asked for their race when they make top 10% in their class, so this helps people get admitted to per say ATM without having to ask what race they are,just by their pure grades and achievements making them top 10%

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    1. I agree with gallerie in that your race should not matter the only thing that should count is all the achivments you hade and how smart you are.

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  34. I belive that the Supreme court will favor the 10% rule against UT because there not doing things the right way and students should be admitted for there achivements not by the race they are.They will follow the 10% rule since thats the way the have to ensure theres no descrimination by race

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  35. I think the Supreme Court will rule in favor of the 10% rule because it just has all the diversity you can ask for. Not only will they not consider those students upon race but will only be looking at their success academically. I just have a question. Once they have accepted the top 10% students that have applied, how will they decide on who else to admit. because college is not all about grades its about commitment. If a person with a lower rank and out of the top 10% applies, how will they be accepted? I mean won't the colleges at this point be looking at other factors, like race, in order for them to be accepted?

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  36. I believe that the supreme court should go with the 10% rule because then race wouldn't be a factor. also their are many students around the world who are different races that are in the 10%. It let's many students have the chance to get into college and they get in because of their academic standings and not their race.

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