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Tuesday, October 23, 2012

The Last Presidential Debate

These are some of the reactions from the last presidential debate.

FoxNews
Huffington Post
NY Times
Politico
BBC News
Al-Jazeera 

and finally

 http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Compare and contrast the articles. What examples of bias are evident? Are there any articles that are less biased than others?

Argue your side and with a fellow classmate.

Bonus points if you can find another article that shows additional reaction.

Due by 10/26/2012 by 11:59 pm

72 comments:

  1. The articles are all making sure to word themselves a specific way, in order to show a candidate in a certain way. FoxNews showed Romney in a more established light. The atricle mentions how Romney "chided" Obama, inferring that Romney is the apparent elder between the two. However, the Huffington Post begins with calling the debate "Obama's best moment". This just shows how the article by FoxNews is favoring the Republican candidate while the Huffington Post article favors the Democratic candidate. However, I feel that Al-Jazeera's article gives the two parties equal merit. The article begins with the idea that the two candidates "clashed" over issues, inferring that the two were equal, while remaining opposite.

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    1. I agree with Francisco's answer and how he viewed the articles and their opinions on the candidates. I especially agree with his opinion on how the Huffington Post and Al-Jazeera expressed very different views on the candidates/debates.

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    2. you are right franciso the articles show their own opinion in the debate some like you said were on obama side saying he came out strong but other said that he kept saying the same thing all over and didnt give information.they all showed theri diffrent opinions over the president.

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    3. I agree that there was major bias in the Huffington Post, but I don't really agree that Fox News was favoring the Republican candidate. Yes, they did use the word "chided", but that doesn't mean that they are favoring him. In the opening sentence of the article, it said that Obama was "armed" with "biting one-liners". Later on in the article, Fox News had also included quotes from the debate showing both candidates bashing each other and trying to show the public how incompetent their opponent is. In the end, Fox News covered both sides of the candidates' arguments and subtle insults.

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  2. The different articles definitely showed different perspectives of Monday's debate. Bias was very evident in the Huffington Post. This article is very straight forward in showing which candidate it leaned more towards. In this post it stated on the second paragraph that "Obama succeeded." Words such as "desperately tried" were used to describe Romney, and positive words such as "brilliant" were used to describe Obama. Examples of the debate were not used in the article, but the author made it very clear that he thought Obama won the debate "hands down."

    Many of the articles showed less bias than the one I stated above. Fox News seemed to have avoided prejudice more than the others. This article even included both President Obama's name in the title along with Romney's name. The article states the strengths and weaknesses of both, and it never seemed to have favored one more than the other. This article just went straight for the facts without trying to form individual opinions. The New York Times also seemed to show a similar article as that of Fox News.

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    1. I agree with everything Sadra metioned. All of the articles had a different perspective of moday's debate. Some showed more bias then others.

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    2. Julio C. Lores CruzOctober 25, 2012 at 5:47 PM

      I agree with Sandra's analysis of the posts. Every post other than the Fox news (and in my opinion the second NY times) showed great bias to either candidate, and used many tetchy comments against the other candidate.

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    3. I agree with Sandra on how she described FoxNews to be of the less biased new articles. The candidates are both stated in the article to be of equal strengths and weaknesses.

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    4. i agree with everything that Sandra, because all the articles put there own opinion out there for everyone to see.

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    5. I agree with Sandra's opinion about the articles. All articles did have their own different thoughts and description about the 2012 Presidential debate and Huffington's article was the most bias showing much more respect for Obama rather than Ryan Romney. The example quotation of words she uses are good to contrast the two electors.

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    6. I agree with Sandra, the Huffington Post article was more bias towards Obama, declaring him as the winner of the debate.

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    7. I disagree Fox News was leaning in Romney's favor. Fox News has always been known for being biased and focusing on Republican views. However i do agree on The Huffington Post's biased views

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  3. Julio C. Lores CruzOctober 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    All the articles had very different opinions on the debate, despite that all of them focused on the exciting parts of the debate (like President Obama's one liners). The most impartial articles were the fox news and the NY times(election forcast). Both articles gave a detailed contrast of the candidates responses to each other, and at no time did they declare an absolute winner. The other articles, especially Huffington post, were much more biased to a candidate. Huffington maintains that Obama won "hands down" in the debate, however polls from the five thirty eight NY times say that it could still turn to be a very close race.
    The first NY times article was also pro-Obama. They used words to describe Romney as " complaining", and that Romney should have focused on Libya more.

    Two more articles that show reaction are-
    1.http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/22/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSBRE89K0A920121022
    (this is more news article)
    2.http://www.forbes.com/sites/giovannirodriguez/2012/10/22/live-blog-the-third-presidential-debate-2012/
    (this one is an actual online debate that show a great many opinions)

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    1. I agree with Julio in that the Huffington post was bias towards President Obama and it was making negative remarks against the other candidate.

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    2. I agree with Julio because yes all the article mentioned at least once Obama's one liners but yes some didn't seem bias doing it, because they didn't just focus on everything good Obama did. And yes FOX News and NY Times seemed to be less bias.

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  4. The articles had a different perpective of moday's debate. Some debates like FoxNews and the NY Times showed less bias. They both showed the strenghts and weakness of both canidates. They also didn't favor either candidate,showing each canidates best part of the debate. Both articles also pointed out the parts of the debate where both canidates shared a same goal. The rest of the articles were more bias. For example, the Huffington post, and Politico favored President Obama. In the Huffignton post, the writer wrote "Obama won the debate hands down." He/she also wrote "The third and final presidential debate was President Obama's best moment in the campaign so far." In the Politico article, the statement Obama said about "Horses and bayonet" to attack Romney. The Politico article says "Data from Google revealed that “horses and bayonets” was the top rising search of the night, while on Facebook, several community pages titled “horses and bayonets" cropped up."



    Articles that shows additional reaction.


    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/politics/debate-global-reaction/index.html


    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204425904578074730181776930.html


    http://theweek.com/article/index/235220/the-final-presidential-debate-does-mitt-romney-agree-with-obama-on-foreign-policy


    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20121022/NEWS09/310220059/Iowa-debate-reaction-Obama-attack-Romney-more-subdued

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    1. I agree with Jonathan about the Huffington post. The article was really bias, and it favored Obama over Romney. On the other hand NY Times and Fox News were good on staying neutral.

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    2. Agree I think the fact that NY Times and Fox News didn't stated who was there favorite candidate was because of the viewers. In my experience I didn;t know about the Huffington.

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    3. I agree with Jonathan that the NY Times and the Fox News were the less bias. Both tried to show the good and bad parts of the debate from both candidates.

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    4. I agree with Jonathans point of the NY times showing both points of the candidates and not being biased in any way.

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  5. The articles pretty much highlighted the same topics in the presidential debate. Some were focused on more than others but quoted the same. Lines were repeated in all the articles with the "fewer horses and bayonets" and foreign policy being a major focal point. Many of the articles did a good job of staying very unbias in their writings but some did show a sense of favortism to certain canidates. The Huffington post for example favored President Obama completely only mentioning Romney here and there. In there thoughts Obame won but polls show that they are tied at 47%.

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  6. NY Times seem to be less biased than some of the others, like the Huffington Post, but they all seemed to focus on similar issues that were discussed during the debates. I believe the Huffington Post was more biased in saying how Obama was the "obvious" winner while other articles, such as Fox, showed less biased and did not really declare one or the other as the winner. Every article did seem to establish their own opinion on who did better in the debate, but some showed it in a less biased approach.

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    1. Natividad MosquedaOctober 26, 2012 at 2:14 PM

      I agree with Jesse with the fact that the biased articles did go as far as declaring a winner while some articles did not really declare a winner and pretty much talked about how the debate went.

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    2. I agreee with Jesse that the Huffington Post was the most biased because they want to declare the winner themselves rather than talk about issues during the debate.

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  7. the articels all had their own opinion ovet the debate on some showed thire support to the president one even said that clearly obama won while others said his preformance could be better bet they didnt really pick a side but you could tell who they supported more. they all seem to talk about the more intresting topics in the debate even if they had there own opinios about it.

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  8. The articles were obviously biased. In FoxNews and NYTimes were the two that weren't exactly choosing a side as did in the Huffington post. The huffington post decalred Obama to be a clear winner. These post tend to be biased as the where they're printed up. All is fair in love and war. The one I felt to be the least bias was the Al jaheez when describing both equally the same with intent to not hold one over the other.

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  9. All the articles had different opinions on monday's debate. the NY post seemed a little less bias than the other articles. the other articles kind of did show that they were leaning towards one side than the other. Most of them were leaning towards Obama, because of how stroong he came out to the dabate. But all of them had there own opinion about how well the candidates did in the debate.

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    1. I agree with Maritza that the NY Post was the less bias article out of the other ones.

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  10. Natividad MosquedaOctober 26, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    In a few of the articles, the events and quotes of the debates were brought up and did not really pic a side. One article though, like the Huffington one, did show some examples of bias when it talked about how well Obama did while Romney showed that he was "not fit" to be a president. You could tell they were "Team Obama". BBC News also seems to lean toward a candidate whom they would like the people to vote for based on their information about the debate. On these articles, negatives are said about the opposing candidates. The articles that stayed on the middleground and actually told how the debate was like with less bias would be Fox News and maybe Five Thirty-eight--which showed the facts about how the election is going.

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    1. I agree wqith Naty in that the Huffington post was leaning towards President Obama than Romney and it was making negative remarks against the other candidate, Romney.

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    2. I also agree with Natividad's comment. Huffington's post does show favor with Obama's presidency. "Team Obama" is a good way of showing how the article obviously likes him and how bias the article actually was.

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    3. I also agree with Naty because throughout the article Huffi gton's post favors Obama and you can obviously tell that they're on his side.

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    4. The top anonymous is mine.....

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  11. The articles have a diverse point of view of the last Presidential campaign. the article that presented a more bias approch was the Huffington post, saying that Mitt Romney was not fit for the position of preisdent that this certain article was going in favor of president Obama. The article that seem the least bias was the Fox News for the fact that this article did not take side of either candidate. It up held each candidates weaknesses and strengths and their various opinions of each according to the debate.

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  12. There is an evident bias example in the Huffington article calling Romney "incoherent" and saying that his own words were his "biggest opponent" , not President Obama. This article showed a great support for Obama, which is why it is the most biased. I believe the least bias articles were NY Times and Fox news. They both remained neutral in talking about the debate. They only have information on what happened during the debate and the facts that can be proven such as poll info and quotes said during the debate.

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    1. I agree with Nancy's answer because the Huffington was being bias by giving all its support to Obama.

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    2. i agree with Nancy and Cecilia on that Huffington gave all its support to Obama

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    3. i agree with nancy that Huffington post was the most biased and that fox news was the least biased along with ny times.

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  13. All seven articles were very bias and they all had their own different opinions when it comes to the 2012 Presidential debate election. Some made it clear who they wanted their vote for &' others were most informative than persuasive. Although the articles listed in the questions above were exaggerated and interesting, in my point of view Huffington's article seemed to be the most bias. This article made it obvious that it was pro-Obama. Examples like; "Romney's biggest opponent was not the president, it was his own words. Obama did a brilliant job of bringing up past Romney statements" are bias evident. Leas bias news like Fox News were also used, articles were there is no obvious choice for presidency, but well informative.
    Other article that shows additional reactions would be

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/10/22/reaction_to_the_third_presidential_debate.html

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Vox-News/2012/1011/Biden-Ryan-debate-Already-some-are-complaining-about-the-moderator-video

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    1. ^ http://www.yesmagazine.org/blogs/sarah-van-gelder/why-romneys-oil-dependent-plan-destabilizes-our-country-and-what-to-do-instead

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    2. I agree with Andrea that the Huffington post was the most bias, because it was just on that side that Obama had won.

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  14. From the seven articles that were listed i would have to say that they were all bias and had their own opinions on who they wanted their readers to vote for. An example would have been Huffington's article because that was the most bias article who made it obviouse that they favored Obama. The Fox article was to me the least bias article in which theyprovided information but they weren't on anyones specific side.

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    1. I agree with ana banana on her comment because first of all the most bias was the Huffington which favored Obama and talked down on Romney.

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  15. All these articles have different opinions about who won the last presidential debate. However some of these articles such as the Huffington post and Politico were the most biased, compared to the rest. The Huffington showed an abundant amount of bias against Romney the absolutly favored president Obama. They expressed that Romney was no competion towards Obama as well they said that he should not be capable to run in the presidential campaing. Fox News and the NY Times I felt were the least bias because they actually talk about the good and bad parts of the whole entire debate and of the most famous phrases said during the entire disscusion.This two articles were in a state of neutrality.

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  16. All these articles have different opinions about who won the last presidential debate. However some of these articles such as the Huffington post and Politico were the most biased, compared to the rest. The Huffington showed an abundant amount of bias against Romney the absolutly favored president Obama. They expressed that Romney was no competion towards Obama as well they said that he should not be capable to run in the presidential campaing. Fox News and the NY Times I felt were the least bias because they actually talk about the good and bad parts of the whole entire debate and of the most famous phrases said during the entire disscusion.This two articles were in a state of neutrality.

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    1. I agree with Cecillia because foxnews was good at presenting both sides when it came to an overview of the debate. Newyork times was also known for being netural and not having to take sides for just one candidate.

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  17. All of the articles in my opinion were biased. The NY Post was actually the most neutral one. All the articles touched the same bases on the subjects they talked about, but it was obvious when they were talking up their choice of candidate. I believe the Huffington Post was the most bias. The blatantly stated that Obama was the winner. The elections aren't for another few weeks, and there are still 9 states that are undecided. There is no for sure winner.

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    1. ^^ that is mine. (:

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    2. I agree that Huffington Post was the most bias, and that the articles are just guessing the winner since their is still some undecided states.

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  18. The news articles seemed to have different opinions on who won the last and final presidential debate. The most cleared one to be bias aging Governor Romney was the Huffington it made it clear that they favored President Obama. The Huffington stated that Obama had been the winer the elections haves past the dead line. They thought Governor Romney was no competition toward Barack in the cense that he shouldn't have even ran for president.The Huffington also said that Romney's enemy was himself his biggest competition. In the other hand we see Fox News and the NY yTimes, I think they pointed out on each other Obama and Governor Romney. They both pointed out the positive and negative I think it is because of the audience they don't want to offend any viewers.

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  19. All the articles have a different prespective on the debate.Almost all of the articles were baised the one that was the most neutral in my opinnion is the NY Post.I believe the Huffington Post was more biased in saying how Obama was the "obvious" winner.The other articles dint really say the opinion they had on who they thought could win the 2012 Presidential Election.

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  20. Each article showed different aspects and opinions on the debate.From the Politico article informing on the "bayonets" that Obama mentioned and the Al-Jazeera article focused on the military strength and the crises in the Middle East. One article that showed the most bias was the Huffington Post having a strong stand on Obama side saying that "Obama won the debate hands down". The article also criticized Romney by saying that he "desperately tried not to make a mistake" and mention the mistakes he made but not the ones from Obama. Some articles are less bias then other in these articles the less bias was the Fox article and the NY Times article witch tried to show both sides of the arguments from its strength and weaknesses.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/presidential-debate-obama-romney-face-off-on-foreign-policy/2012/10/22/ca25b8dc-1c7f-11e2-ad90-ba5920e56eb3_story.html

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  21. Each article had its own perspectives about that debate. The article that was pretty biased was the Politico article because people go over board about that bayonets and the binder full of women and also the article of Huffington Post was mostly biased of favoring Obama overall and that he is going to win for sure. The least biased would be fox news because they are actually taking the debate more serious and actually stating the facts.

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  22. All six articles have different opinions on the outcome of the last presidential debate. The most bias reaction came from the Huffington Post. The article clearly states that Obama won Mondays debate "hands down." The rest of the articles like Fox News and the NY times were more neutral and did not declared an absolute winner. They were less biased for sure.

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    1. I agree that nothing was more biased out those articles than the Huffington Post.

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  23. The article from politico.com seemed to be biased towards Romney, since it kept quoting tweets about President Obama's line, "horses and bayonets". All the tweets on the article shone President Obama in a bad light.

    In the article from politicalwire.com (a.k.a Huffington Post on here), it was extremely biased toward President Obama. The entire article talked about how the third debate was President Obama's "best moment" in the campaign. It also went on to say that in the debate, Romney's enemy wasn't Obama, but his own words.

    Foxnews.com, nytimes.com, bbc.co.uk, aljazeera.com all seem to be neutral. The 4 sites discussed the debate on both sides, pointing out strengths and weaknesses both candidates displayed.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/us-presidential-debate_n_2005283.html?ir=World

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  24. Each article had its own perspective about the debate. The article that I thought was the most bias was the Huffington Post because the author made it very clear that he thought Obama won the debate "hands down". Many of the other articles like Fox News and the NY times showed less bias to one candidate and showed flaws of both of them they also did not declared an absolute winner.

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    1. I agree with Alex because in my opinion the Huffington post was obviously the most bias based on how confident they seemed declaring a winner and saying things like "hands down."

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  25. Jocelyn (fredrick) ascencio (/^.^\)October 26, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    Each article dicussed differnts points and aspects of the final presidential debate. Like the Huffington clearly found that Obama was the winner of the election and that Romney was not fit to be president. It talked a lot about Romney's mistakes compared to the way Obama took over. Out of the eight articles the two most biased was Huffington and Politico.com which talked about Obama's line directed towars romney "horses and bayonets". The politico also says "Data from Google revealed that “horses and bayonets” was the top rising search of the night, while on Facebook, several community pages titled “horses and bayonets" cropped up."  In my opinion the two articles which talked about the pros and cons of both candidates including strengths and weaknesses were Foxnew.com and NYtimes.com. Even though the rest of the articles were very neutral as well.

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  26. All the articles listed above give example of bias on how they directly say that Obama won that debate. They are showing preference to which candidate they believe is good. Huffington post is one of the articles that showed bias in every possible way because it mentioned the things Romney did wrong but pointed out how Obama did a wonderful job in the debate. Other articles were not so bias because they mentioned both candidates weaknesses and strengths in the debate.

    Another article :http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/10/third_presidential_debate_barack_obama_won_the_final_debate_but_mitt_romney.html

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  27. The Huffington Post was very bias, shifting it's view to President Obama. Saying that Obama did great on his last presidential debate for president. The writer of this article clearly stated that Obama had won the debate "hands down" The first article of Fox News is less bias in the sense that it shows what good and bad things both Obama and Romey did. It doesn't lean on a candidate more than another, it actually makes both candidates look equal. So the Fox News article is less bias definitely that the Huffington Post article. Another not bias article is the one of Politico. This article made Obama look good and bad at the same time. It also made Romney look good and bad, but it did focus on the negative aspects of the candidates Well actually the things the candidates said, that made headlines on the web, and that are being discussed. Pretty much all the articles were not very bias, The Huffington Post showed to be the most bias of all.

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    1. I agree with Galleries comment about how Huffington shifted it's views to president Obama saying how great he did on the debate and how they stated that Obama had succeeded and won the debate.

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  28. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/romney-takes-lead-on-economy-white-men-are-the-movers/

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  29. Some of the articles had Obama as the definite winner, the others had different opinions. All articles though had some form of bias used. All articles had different amount of bias. While the Huffington Post biased by only criticized Romney's performans and exaggerating on how well Obama did, the other articles, like NY Times, wrote equally of both candidates.

    (there is a translate option if you can't read Italian) http://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo/articoli/1065581/usa-2012-terzo-e-ultimo-dibattito-tv-per-cbs-e-cnn-la-vittoria-e-di-barack-obama.shtml


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  30. The articles listed are all showing their point of view on the final debate, some are bias and some are not. The Huffington post was the most bias because they clearly picked a president that they believe that won and explained how wonderful he was and how bad the other one was. The NY Times was less bias and more just because they explained both candidates' strengths and weaknesses.

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  31. Most articles talked about the advantages and disadvantages of both candidates but some did picked and choose a side and where pretty bias others where very neutral. The Huffington Post seemed to be the most bias of them all. It talked about how great Obama did, how it was his "best moment" and just talked about all the mistakes Romney did. The Politico article was also bias, as well as it talked about the "horses and bayonets" that Obama had mention, and explaining how it was one of the major topics going around in the social media. In my opinion the most neutral article was the Al-jazeera. It talked about both parties just about the same not talking one side over the other. They didn't bother to put one above the other so mention both the weakness and strengths of each candidate

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  32. After reading this articles i can say that the most bias as a whole was the Huffington Post. My response to this would be because this article pointed out how great Obama did and how the writer admits he won this last debate. Whereas Romney he did poor on this last debate and talks about his flaws calling him "ignorant" in the sense that his words were his own enemies. I can say that the less bias article was Fox News and NY Times because of the fact that they both stayed equal to the comments they said towards Obama and Romney. Meaning that they stated both Obamas and Romneys flaws and advantages they didnt just focus on one candidate but in both.

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  33. It's obvious that Fox News and Politico are the conservative biased articles because of Fox's focus on Romney's performance and Politico's focus on Obama's Horses and Bayonets comment. The Huffington Post was liberally biased taking Obama's side right from the start. In my opinion BBC and Al Jazeera were neutral in thought and action commenting on both candidate's performance instead of sticking to one.

    http://bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2012/10/26/foreign-policy-debate-ignores-most-world/lx1p1gFJbgjonWibUZQnXN/story.html


    And i know this doesn't count but it's still hilarious

    http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/11wt48/special_mod_announcement_rpolitics_open_thread/

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  34. Hands down, the strongest biased article was from the Huffington Post. Obama was regarded as a clear winner, even though we all know the race is ultra close. The least biased were BBC and Al-Jazeera. The reason behind that can be drawn from the fact that these articles are non-American, and therefore the article isn't influenced by biased views

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  35. All of the different articles had very different perspectives. Some being more bias than the others. For example I believe That Fox News and NY times showed great bias to both candidates, yet they were very conservative when being bias. I also believe that Huffington Post was extra biased against Romney since they were clearly on Obamas side from the start pointing out his strong points yet they called Romney "ignorant". I also believe the article Al-jazeera was the least biased since they never took either candidates side. They pointed both of their flaws. Without making either superior than the other so this article was fair to both candidates.

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  36. The articles showed different perspectives of Monday's final debate. The Huffington post is clear showing which candidate it leaned more towards. This post it stated their opinion of Obama, on the second paragraph, "Obama succeeded." The author made Romney seem like he did bad by simply saying he was desperate and he didn't give big thoughts about the discussions in the debate but strongly felt that Obama won the debate.
    Other articles were less bias. The Fox News article included both President Obama's name in the title along with Romney's name. The article never favors one or the other. They point out bothe good and bad things.

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  37. Each article had its own perspective about the debate, along with different opinions on how things should have ended up between both Obama and Romney. However, the article that seemed to be the MOST bias was the Huffington Post, where the writer wrote that Obama CLEARLY won by all means, not even giving Romney any credit for his actions.

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